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Eventually, every religious believer must come fact to face with something truly frightening: The facts.
So it is that, a few weeks after initially reporting on the case of Nepal’s so-called Buddha Boy, Ram Bomjon, who claims to have been sitting without eating, drinking, or otherwise moving at all for over six months, I have a few facts that his believers must confront:
Fact 1: Both of these photographs are pictures of Ram Bomjon, taken at different times.
Fact 2: These photographs show Ram Bomjon in different positions.
Fact 3: The only way for a person to go from one position to another is to move.
Look at the hand pointing down in the two pictures. It’s in a different place. Then, look at his other hand, which is invisible, perhaps under the cover, in one photograph, but in prominent sight right under Ram Bomjon’s chin. No difference in camera angle can explain these changes in position.
Then what about the foot that is bare in one photograph, but not bare in the other? Are we to believe that Ram Bomjon used his super Rimpoche powers to move his cover telepathically?
Perhaps Ram Bomjon’s assistants moved the cover for him, but to do so, they would have had to move his arm as well, and that would be pretty disturbing to any meditation. At least, that’s what Ram Bomjon’s inner circle of handlers tells everyone – no one is allowed to get close to or touch Ram Bomjon because to do so would disturb his meditation. They wouldn’t let a team of physicians even get within 15 feet of him, for fear breaking the meditation.
Everything about this Ram Bomjon Buddha Boy story smells fishy – like fish that have been sitting untouched for six months, to be specific. I know that people want an example to believe in, but when belief is given in the context of contradictory facts, that belief goes beyond blind faith. It becomes faith that refuses to see.
75 Responses to “Photos Show Ram Bomjon Moved”
- acheron Says:
December 8th, 2005 at 3:12 pmOh yeah, the bare foot gives it all away–and the hand. What a scam! He apparently found the time to get a haircut too. He lost the “Sib” cut (Boston, anyone?) look for a much more modern style. Okay, so maybe it rained on him–, but I liked the Sib look better. I wish that all gods looked like Sib. Could you imagine JC with a nice Sib ‘fro?
- jesus rojo Says:
December 8th, 2005 at 9:47 pmomg dont you guys remember that he strted to speak when he got bitten by the snake.maybe the other picture
was taken after he was bitten when he talked so dont believe it it is all true the boy has been meditating for six months and if you dont believe you are stupid
- random42 Says:
December 8th, 2005 at 11:38 pmYou can talk and meditate at the same time?
- Erin Says:
December 9th, 2005 at 2:28 amWell supposedly he did move after his snake bite and was covered with a curtan for few days and then he spoke after that. So oviously he moved. Hes definatly able to sit for long periods of time I’ll give him that. Also no one is making claims of him eating or sleeping or peeing. What I wonder about is weather these “monks that are around him AKA his managers came before this incident or after he sat down to meditate? Here’s the story I read. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/21/wbuddha21.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/11/21/ixportal.html
- HareTrinity Says:
December 9th, 2005 at 4:46 amHow old’s this kid again? 15?Am I the one missing something, or shouldn’t he be working on his education?
- Kevin Says:
December 9th, 2005 at 11:11 amAcheron:I get the reference. Whatever happened to him? My friends and I were in awe of his massive ‘do when we first saw his picture on the back of the first album.
- acheron Says:
December 9th, 2005 at 5:42 pmKevin, he’s still around. I think he’s into free-lance recording and whatnot. I haven’t heard of him lately, but we used to laugh about that hairdo in college and called it a “Sib”. Those into classic rock used to get the reference and would laugh about it, saying “I remember that album, and that hair”. I just ran a google on Sib and found these excellent pics. Check out that last one. That’s a Sib that even Ram could be proud of. http://www.cathedralstone.net/Pages/Boston.htm
- Trust me Says:
December 11th, 2005 at 11:11 pmTrust me it is real. There is no trick.. You will be surprized knowing it was not a joke. Wait for few months.
- joseph Says:
December 12th, 2005 at 3:21 pmthis is like the moon landing i will not belive it unless i will sit there with some two aids on
watch for 7 days and if it turns out then to be true i will still disaprove of it.i hate this
- Trust me Says:
December 12th, 2005 at 10:45 pmI have nothing to say you .. it’s up to you. I am sure you are not the only who does not belive.. Only those person belive it who understand it. Take care.
- atousa Says:
December 14th, 2005 at 12:29 ami’m so sorry for people who don’t believe what they don’t understand.this is not science,it’s spirituality.
- rogerwalker Says:
December 14th, 2005 at 9:48 pmRemember he is not going for a record of who can meditate the longest. And we all know that you can’t do anything at the same time as anything else. That would mean there are two moments in the same moment. He is going for the longest time without eating or drinking and obviously if you don’t do either of those then you deffinatly would not have to use the bathroom. This would prove that energy is a feeling.
- Angel12345 Says:
December 15th, 2005 at 6:34 pmI BELIEVE!
- QZO Says:
December 19th, 2005 at 1:56 pmHi, just to make sure everybody knows, you do NOT need to be still as a tree trunk to achieve
enlightment. He could meditate for must of the day, then have a very small amount of food
and water (enough for substinance, and sleep for a while. The fact that no one is allowed
within 15 feet of him is just going to say that he doesn’t need or want anybody while he is
on this journey. Furthermore the money being made out of his photos is money paid freely by
people. He is not posing, he is not waving or smiling. Let the boy be.
- God Bzaro Says:
December 19th, 2005 at 2:17 pmHow ignorant are the masses. The Father YHVH is still showing you the truth of his existance but yet you people try to find the smallest things to demote the Universal powers of the Most high. Here if you
noticed that the 1st picture of the boy when he started he was what we consider to be healthy or
bigger or he had more body & face weight. That should make you all think…
Anyway, when the body loosses weight it tends to shrink. That is the very reason why it APPEARS that the child is or has moved. So infact, in reality, who’s wrong. Another arguement, is the fact that who is the one or one’s that claim the boy is or has been sitting still? Was it the boy himself? HUmmmm!!!! You think about that and watch out for the Coming of the Most Important Inlightened of old ancient times; YAHU’SHUA (whom in the latin text or language they call Jesus)God Bzaro
- Scott Says:
December 19th, 2005 at 4:03 pmGod Bzaro says: “The Father YHVH is still showing you the truth of his existance”
So your position is that Yahveh (God) is offering this “miracle” as evidence that God exists.
This is an interesting position for a devout believer (which I infer that you are–I apologize if wrong). You believe that God intends that we draw our conclusions regarding His/Her existence based on evidence.
I find this odd for many reasons:
1. This alleged miracle would appear to evidence for the reality of Buddhism rather than an indicator that the 2nd Coming of Jesus is nigh.
2. If God wants us to base our beliefs on evidence, most (I acknowledge not all) rational persons do not find that the evidence points to a designer, let alone a personal God.
3. The evidence (Bible, Koran, etc) seems to indicate that God does NOT want us to draw conclusions from evidence; that Faith–believing the right thing in the absence of rational reason–is virtuous.
4. All prior evidence (and some current observations of the “miracle” in question) leads one to reserve rational doubt regarding the veracity of the miraculous nature of the boy.Where faith and rationality come into conflict, I’m siding with my God given faculty of rationality.And I ask again–why has this child not been taken into protective custody? As I said in another thread, his condition appears similar to catatonic schizophrenia. He could be doing irrepairable damage to himself.
- Marmo Says:
December 22nd, 2005 at 7:21 amDear friends, look through the ilusion and try to see the truth!
- Odd Claude Says:
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:04 pmThanks for the advice, Marmo. I see a fish with a funny hat!
- cittykat Says:
December 24th, 2005 at 4:10 pmO.K. so is he alive or dead? Someone please check him out. He is missing out on Christmas?
- THE GOD SQUAD Says:
December 25th, 2005 at 1:42 pm“Little Buddha” First of all he is NOT GOD!!! Anti Christ maybe? The Anti Christ(Satan)will deceive the whole world, and every religon except the born again Jews and Christians, by saying that he’s “GOD” and those of you who don’t read,and study your bible will most likely follow the Anti Christ.The second coming of Christ Jesus will happen after SATAN deceives the whole world FIRST by saying that he’s “GOD” and forceing his mark on you,or off with your HEAD!!! by the way satan’s mark (THE MARK OF THE BEAST) is most likely a computer micro chip!!! THAT boy is a FAKE or MAYBE the ANTICHIRST! But GOD!!! NEVER that BOY does’nt hold a candle compare to GOD. By the way GOD’S son is JEWISH!!!! May the REAL GOD who is in HEAVEN as we speak shed some LIGHT on YOU!!! May CHRIST be with you!! Merry CHRISTmas!!!
- lui Says:
December 29th, 2005 at 12:10 amFor every “westerner” that has made a comment about this boy needing to either be taken into custody or continue with is ahem. . . “education”, please take the time study the cultures of India and Nepal so that you understand that your western view is actually abstract and does not fit into this context. Any Anthropologist worth is salt would tell you that. For those of you who think he is the anti-christ I feel sorry for how small your worldview is. How could the only powerful miracle workers in the whole of human history be limeited to the middle east? If that was the case then god has done a shwaggy job of revealing his power in the world. P.S. RANT AWAY GOD SQUAD I AM SITTING IN SOUTH EAST ASIA AND I AM BORED, and wishing I could go see this meditatin master!
- lui Says:
December 29th, 2005 at 12:16 amOh yeah, and yes you can too move when in meditation. You can move all you want. If he feels like shifting positions he can. It’s not like medition is this fragile thing that could shatter if he moved. If he is truly a master at what he is doing then he can shift his hand blah blah blah, and then sit still again. It’s ghetto that there are people freaking out trying to disprove what scares them without taking the time to learn about what they are disproving. SOOO GHETTO. Specially you kids in the “he is the antichrist club” I mean WTFE!!!
- Symment Says:
January 2nd, 2006 at 6:00 amLeave the boy alone. Time can reveal the truth.
Don’t speculate the right or wrong as the boy still haven’t spoken.
As we human always derive thing differently and cause misunderstanding here and there or even caused hazardous action. In this universe, we still don’t know where is the begining or the end? Earth is only a tiny little planet in the infinity galaxy. Who knows Earth could be only a station for us to wait for the next? Hence, everything could happen. Don’t keep ourselve so complicated as u’ll know when your next station is waiting for u but is too late to tell….
- Peter Says:
January 2nd, 2006 at 12:22 pmdoes anybody know a website that has daily information? btw – i believe him …
- Dot Says:
January 2nd, 2006 at 4:30 pmIt’s not the same kid
- wilson sadler Says:
January 4th, 2006 at 6:17 pmthe tree and the young man are not claiming to be the same, unmoving, as appearing to be in a previouse time.
what is remarkable is the control neccesary. David Blane might be well interested.
- Mario Says:
January 13th, 2006 at 1:48 pmLook for updates looking for Palden Dorje, Ram Bamjan or Buddha Gyani. There are more researches under these names.
- Bigfatfurrytexan Says:
January 19th, 2006 at 12:57 pmDoes it really matter? The kid is sitting there not talking to anyone, so how does anyone have any idea what his intentions are? and to consider him as an Anti Christ is ridiculously close minded and Christian. Christ was a teacher of tolerance and acceptance…calling a kid something as strong as Anti Christ without him doing anything more than being observed sitting there seems to be directly conflicting with the teachings of Christ. Do i believe him? i don’t know. Anything is possible, and if you believe in what the bible/koran/torah say literally, you should definitely agree that anything is possible as your beliefs are already pretty far fetched. Remember, chrisians, christ was seen as a false prophet by the overwhelming majority of jews in his day.
- Blowfish Says:
January 24th, 2006 at 9:25 amYo big fat furry, Christ was not seen as a false prophet, He was however seen as a holy man, Just not the messiah.
Check your facts fat man.
Where do I get my facts? i live in Israel, married to an Israeli, surrounded by the bible bashing hypocrites from every religion, holding onto religion as a teenager holds onto santa claus…Pfft wot a load of bull!!
- Mauricio Says:
January 24th, 2006 at 12:39 pmlui. I never participate here but I find your postings very important when you mention that westeners have a tendency to see the world only in their own way. You should post a little more to emphasize on that. We westeners can be funny, by all means. Their concept of God (whether Jew, Christian AND Muslim) and theirown conception of spirituality is so prevalent that anything else is nearly imposible to conceptualize. We westeners want proof of everything and forget how Jesus cannot even be accounted as a real person (but that’s a whole differente topic).
We can only continue to watch this kid and we can certainly enjoy the process of what we are witnessing. This is worth the time spent in learning for those of us that are interested in the search of truth regardless of religion. Greetings to all.
- Drew Says:
January 24th, 2006 at 6:20 pmOk, so if you can get close enough to take pictures (15 feet right?) Why isn’t there someone out there with a zoom lens watching day and night? That would show us real quick whether or not he’s a fake. I’ll tell you why, or why I think this hasn’t been done. What hasn’t been mentioned in any story I’ve seen, is what happens at night. Unless all the followers, skeptics and anyone else out there looking for the truth are all morons, then the “managers” curtain him up at some point at night. Otherwise we would have heard something more than speculation and pure rumor by now. So the managers curtain him up at night, there is absolutely no other explanation for the lack of info on this kid. If they curtain him up at night, I hate to say it, but he’s a fake. I mean, you can be 99% sure he’s a fake at least.I’m a westerner, but tell me where I’m wrong? I’m as eager to believe as anyone, but this story has gone on far too long with no new info, no new pictures (other than that above, which I really think tells us absolutely nothing, other than it looks like a different kid).
- Drew Says:
January 24th, 2006 at 10:11 pmI ended up finding another forum, where a member posted a message from a buddhist listserv of someone who traveled out to see him. I thought this was interesting, since it seems so hard to find any important information about Bomjon. Depending on whether this witness is real or not, what I said above about Bomjon being a fake might not be true.“I found it interesting that no one stays with him at night to protect him (against wild animals or wild people.) His brother and a Tibetan Lama as well as a few other guardians all leave at night and come back in the early morning. Perhaps the jungle is too raw and they are
afraid (this is in the Chitwan reserve area known for tigers, rhino, elephants, etc.) I have come to find out this evening that the problem of danger (particularly human) is a concern shared by many and that currently Tibetan lamas are in discussion with the government of
Nepal (whoever that is) to create a safer environment for him.”He said more, but I thought this was very interesting. In fact, it makes me want to ask the guy, ‘why didn’t you walk up closer to him?’. He makes some other good comments, the link is
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=6&Number=15804535&page=0&fpart=7 he’s the bottom message on the first page.
- meh Says:
January 29th, 2006 at 6:41 pmJust because he moved doesn’t mean anything other than claiming he doesn’t move is a lie.
- Junga Says:
January 30th, 2006 at 5:06 amJust because Ram Bomjon is a fraud doesn’t mean anything other than that he and his friends are cheating gullible people of their “donations”.
- Irregular Times: News Unfit for Print » Blog Archive » Ram Bomjon and Temptation Says:
January 31st, 2006 at 7:18 am[…] I have been tracking the story of Ram Bahadur Bomjan ( or Ram Bomjon) for a couple of months now. Ram Bomjon is a teenage boy in Nepal who, his supporters claim, has been meditating without eating or moving for about eight months now, sitting under a pipal tree, just as Buddha did. […]
- One Says:
February 1st, 2006 at 1:16 pmTo whom it may concern.Lo, people.Wow theres a load of rubbish going on around here… well what do you expect with peoples ego and all that. I mean… anti-christ, what the!!! People just randomly make these assumptions and accusations based on… hmmm… nothing. First of all, if this was an act or whatever you want to call it (which it isn’t), I don’t think anyone would want to ‘waste’ their life, sitting by a tree trying to get people to believe that it’s real. Someone above said that it was to get donations (maybe not in those words exactly), but, he wouldnt waste all that time just to get a bit of money, and also, he could not have even known that he was going to get donations or not as soon as he started meditating by the tree. Also, before starting the meditating he had done prayer, and studied buddhism and stuff. Oh, and your also saying his family were also acting, which of course i dont think they would go through all the bother to do such a thing. He never claimed that he hadn’t moved. Someone from above who was trying to defend Ram BomJom stated that he did not move intentionally, but it had happened because of his body shrinking because he did not eat any food, but I do not think this is the case, if you look a little closer at the picture. He can move, he’s allowed to move, theres no rule saying he isn’t, this isn’t a game here. I’m only one year older than him, and when I meditate quite deeply, I sometimes move. And maybe also he was not meditating all the time, sometimes maybe he chose not to, just most of the time he did.This is very real, and whether you believe it or not is based on your own ability to see beyond your life and see reality for how it really is, which, most people cannot do. Believe what you want. Don’t try to use science to prove these things since Science is limited and only looks on the surface using the five outer senses in order to find reality. You must look inward, not outwards. Most people won’t believe this because of the limitations and stuff theyve been conditioned to and brought up to believe by the rest of society. The belief that we are all limited beings, is a widely held notion, and if believed, then that is what you will become – a limited being. I have millions of other things to say, but I have to go practice guitar. Most people won’t believe this. Anyone who does not believe this is real, after reading the comments that defend Ram (including this one) are unlikely to have their opinion/belief changed on the matter. And vice versa. Well maybe some, but I don’t think most people will.
I probably shouldn’t have wasted my time in writing this anyway, but its too late now nd stufff. Anyway I’m going now so byeeeeee.
- One Says:
February 1st, 2006 at 1:27 pmOh… and you think, someone was feeding him a quick snack at night time, in order to keep him alive?..
Thats a stupid idea. Lol, that just wouldn’t happen. It would be way too risky if someone got caught feeding him. And also another thing to look at, is that Ram’s mother has exactly the same name as the Buddha’s mother had (obviously because of fate) (the Buddhas mother was a queen incase you might want to know). Do you also take that as a coincidence, or do you think that they had this dreadful act planned out before the mother was even born? Or unless she legally changed her name in order to convince people of this devasting fraudualant scandal (j/k btw).Take care all!
God bless you!
- One Says:
February 1st, 2006 at 1:39 pmHi again.Also, when I said it was real, I would like to change my mind about that. In that, I believe it is probably real, based on what I have read about it. How am I supposed to know if its real, or not, I havn’t even been there. I think what I was trying to say is that, that situation has the potential of being real. What has been written about Ram is very truly possible. I think that Ram is really doing this, however I can’t say that just from reading stuff on the internet about it… for all I know, Ram may not even exist, maybe it was a story just made up on the internet. Ok, very unlikely, but thats how you have to base things. And if you want truth, don’t look to other people, or scirptures (well you can use them to guide you, but don’t take it as the truth, look inside yourself. You might think, “I just did, but there’s nothing there, I can’t see my spiritual self when I focus my attention inside me”. Well, let me tell you, that there is a real you (or spiritual self, whatver you want to call it) inside of you its kind of hard to see when you are blinded with ego. That might be hard to understand, but I have often thought of a particulary analogy I made myself. I have been doing perfect pitch ear training (which you might think is besides the point, but read on!) and, when someone plays to notes on, say a piano for instance, then most people wouldn’t be able to heard the two notes, only the top note. (I did at first aswell, until I did some training), and if someone played that other note seperately you might believe, that wasn’t there, I was listening sooo hard, but I couldn’t hear it!! Well, let me assure you, it was there, you just weren’t really paying attention to it.Ive wasted loaaaaads more time, yet again! I have a 13 hour guitar practice schedule I should be following… Gotta get to work, Cya!P.s Yngwie is amazing!!!
- Andy Says:
February 2nd, 2006 at 7:28 pmWhy does anyone care whether or not it is real anyway. It doesn’t matter either way and you should not revolve your life around trying to be right all the time and prove other people wrong.
- Homer Simpson Says:
February 2nd, 2006 at 7:29 pmIf you somehow manage to look at life a bit deeper, you will see that this type of thing is very possible for anyone.
- Hk2 Says:
February 2nd, 2006 at 7:42 pmWhoever it was (above) that wrote, that it was not the even the same person in the two different pictures is talking Bu**s*it. Why don’t you get a pair of eyes (or at least ones that work well enough to be able see clearly) before you start judging whether it is (who clearly is the same person) the same person or not.
- Norbu Tenzin Says:
February 4th, 2006 at 10:30 pmBuddha boy,While seeing his photo gives little bit confuse, it means he is moving and his hand are found in different positions. So what you people think??? there must be something wrong.
- An American Mick Says:
February 5th, 2006 at 11:27 pmI just tried to sit still for a very long time without eating, just to see if I could find a little enlightenment. Now my butt’s numb, and i really want a beer.I did, however, remember where I left my Joshua Tree cd. Maybe there really is something to it…
- kj Says:
February 6th, 2006 at 1:09 amLeave Him ALONE !!!!!!!
- J. Clifford Says:
February 6th, 2006 at 4:45 amWait a minute, KJ. The Buddha took all kinds of abuse from Mara while meditating, including not just temptation and threats and criticisms, but lightning bolts. You’re saying Ram Bomjon, the supposed new Buddha, can’t take a little skepticism on a web site he can’t even see?Get some perspective.
- Anti Clifford Says:
February 6th, 2006 at 6:10 pmBomjon doesnt say he is budah hes just mastering his meditation
clifford you are a funny ha ha get some pill and drop in.
- Anti Clifford Says:
February 6th, 2006 at 9:21 pmMr tenzin i agree with you of course, Clifford he is moving because he is well and alive.what do you think of him a statue.
and his short hair and muscluline body of course they change he is a little bit thinner now and his hair growing now for eigth months of siting there with no food and water of course there is a big change mr.clifford what do you think of these people the same mentality as you. Theres is a law of nature and changes.
- Follower of Buddhist Philosophy Says:
February 9th, 2006 at 5:16 pmHogwash!!! As a photographer and artist, I can see that this is a con. My job is to pay close attention to details. Not only has he moved, he has cut his hair. He also has obviously had baths. He could meditate for a few hours each day and be considered as someone who has been meditating for some number of months, but he claims to have been meditating continuously without food or drink. The boy appears to be fat and healthy. A thick stock he is and has obviously had plenty of food. Go and spy on him in the night and you will see that he moves and has food given to him. He is not enlightened. He is a fraud who will find nothing but sadness in the long run. He needs to stop faking and start meditating with sincerity. I meditate for 2 hours each day. Am I a Buddha? Far from it. This boy has been conned into playing this game in order to take people’s money and to cause them to follow him as if he were Buddha himself. Yes, he said, do not call me Buddha, but in fact, he was simply using reverse psychology to get people to think he is humble. Then they will say, O.K., he is a Buddha. If you believe he is a Buddha, so be it. I do not. He is a boy. Soon to become a man. I pray he finds a true path soon before it is too late. I hate to think he will have to come back in another life with more suffering because of his bad Kharma.
- Anti Clifford Says:
February 10th, 2006 at 8:57 amyour just creating your own imagination your not a follower of bhudisst philosophy you are a 100% bogus phillosophy your words reflects to your personality who’s behind you anyways satan you guys are anti bhudist and then you claim you are bhudist no way you are a bullshiter. jesus say hey fixed your inballanced mind it will lead you to hell.
- hackers Says:
February 10th, 2006 at 11:49 amAnyway those pictures on the above was owned by United we blog for democratic nepal you dont have the right to use those picture not unlless UWB allow you to use it.The ten commandments say Thoug shall not steel
- ESpecially for the bastard follower of Buddhist philosophy Says:
February 13th, 2006 at 9:16 pmhey azz, don’t pave your path to hell unnecessarily like this.
You could think of your dad as satan before accusing the meditating boy as what your
ignorant mind have to say. Leave the boy alone. Even if you are not able to appreciate what others have accomplished, at least make it a point not to go against them when they have done nothing wrong to you.
That’s why people like you need those Jihadis to bomb your dirty azzes.
I am sorry I have to say this. This is especially to that son of satan who falsely have wriiten his nick as ‘Follower of Buddhist Philosophy’. Better watch your satan dad at night than to tell here to watch the Buddha boy at night. You could figure out more interesting facts in your own house. Check out babe!
- Bruno from Annecy, France Says:
February 27th, 2006 at 5:05 amhello all ! , the moving of the boy is not important at all…meditating does not stop you from being able to move, there is no challenge like not moving…the aim is not to freeze, but to reach a higher state of consciousness…so going into details like “oh look he moved, I could see it , I’m so clever”, is really the nirvana of stupidity, lol !!! now, how meditation works ? the thoughts will slow down, (thoughts relate to past and future, which are either already gone, or not yet there ! ) and the consciousness expand in the present and become limitless, and this is just a start I guess… then the human entity connect to energies that supply whatever is needed…I see it as he gets connected to the cause of the universe itself…if that happens truly (which is the only real question !!!), then all the rest means nothing…
For myself, despite the fact you must keep a scientific approach, I have great hope that the happening is true… may be some have done it before, but nowadays at the time of the medias, if it is established before the cameras that it is possible to go beyond the material reality, then humanity will gain a lot…after all it could prove also that the deeds of Christ were real… !!! and that all religions came from the same reality…, so why fight ???
watch out ! …any questions you have I will try to answer…
any question, I’ll try to answer…
- Anti Clifford Says:
February 27th, 2006 at 11:02 amBruno why clifforrd against all religions he claims that ram bomjon is Anti Christ he uses the name of born angain Chrirstian. is he destructive Atheist or constructive Atheist? or someone behind him to do these job just to get figth for all religious faith? What do you think? just go down to the level of these reality.even though he moves or not that’s not the point here.
- Norbu Tenzin Says:
February 28th, 2006 at 12:47 amMany people says these and that about the meditation boy, ram bomjan, what you people will get from this for agreeing or not? No one will benefit anything from this, if he complete his meditation successfully will benefit for the whole world and for all sient beings and not only for you people who write un ncessary words about his meditation. So whether his meditation is true or not so please try to understand ourselves instead of disturbing all.
- Bruno from France Says:
March 6th, 2006 at 6:03 amhello anti clifford, don’t you have a name of your own ?
the answer to your question, a great seer gave it 400 years ago I think…Kabir wrote about religions, he said that religions are all flowers of the same tree of life, but humans plugged them out of the tree saying this is mine, that is mine..the flowers died and religions became disconnected from god and that’s why people fight for religion physically or intellectually…they don’t see that religions came from the same source, as messages sent to humanity at different points of our evolution…by this fighting, they are doing the greatest harm to god and the greatest harm to true religion …so the guy who is saying about other religions that they are the anti Christ blah blah blah, may be he is himself the real anti Christ, lol !! If Christ would come back now to help him, he would not easily recognize him, so closed he is to “other” religions….may be he would kill him again ! (sorry Clifford I dont mean that for you , don’t take it personnaly, i don’t know you, but I am answering to “anticlifford”, lol)
OK sry, I cant keep serious …. don’t know if that make any sense Anticlifford ?
also remember if somebody use this word of antichrist, then he’s no atheist… !!
also thx Norbu Tenzin for what you wrote, it’s very wise I think you got the central point !!!
other questions ?
- plamena Says:
March 6th, 2006 at 6:15 amhello,people,I understood about this boy from a newspraper,
which is published in my own country -Bulgaria.So I belive that all this may be true,and why not…Why do we have to belive only in the bad things in the world,only in wars,in natural disasters,why not in something beautiful like this,I truly hope this boy will complite his work,and he will get to the lightening.I’m christian,but though I belive that religion is one word,and not 10 different..Gods,and beleifes are different,because of what a nations traditions are…or I don’t now why,but I think medditation in the name of peace is something extremely positive,and honest,I was so happy when I read the artical in that newspaper,and wven more,when I find info ot the net,so I’m with Ram Bonjor in my thougnts..;)
- Anti Clifford Says:
March 7th, 2006 at 12:13 pmBruno dont say sorry if you think youre right, the man of rightousness doesnt have fear to say the truth
be a man of your words.you have your own way of understanding and i have mine, so im not fighting anyone here im just being naked i dont want people to be lured by evil minded manipulators Theres no such religion higher than truth. No more question for you bruno, your words reflects to your personality. Im Anti Clifford and that is my Identity. Peace be with you.Plamena you have strong belief keep it up.
- Tim Mac Says:
March 10th, 2006 at 1:07 pmGood grief. Has everyone nitpicked enough (not just on the kid but on each other as well)? There seems to be enough intolerance to go around all sides of the discussion.As far as I can tell, we have a situation where a kid decided to follow his religious convictions. These things happen in all faiths. He went a bit overboard (which also happens on all faiths), in fact he is out of step with the Buddha’s teaching of the Middle Way, and it has been turned into a media circus. There have been huge mischaracterizations of his claims (the kid has only claimed that he is not Buddha, as far as is reported, and that’s a claim that is correct). Buddhism teaches the way of non-extremes. Siddartha Gautama tried sensory indulgence and then ascetism, and turned away from both as they were insufficient to resolve all of his questions about life and to achieve liberation. This young man (or his followers) seems to have embraced a form of asceticism.His “followers” or “handlers” have reportedly made claims that are frankly untenable, such as that he has not eaten or moved in months. He’d be dead if that were true, either from starvation and dehydration or from massive pressure ulcers that would be severely infected in short order. Buddhist meditation does not exempt one from the laws of nature. Logically, however, it is not necessarily the case that the boy is a fraud even if those around him are. He may indeed be sincerely meditating (although if this is the case, he’d probably be better off leaving in the middle of the night like he left home, to get some peace and quiet).One last point. There is no reincarnation in Buddhism as there is no self or soul to be reincarnated. The term is “rebirth” and it’s more like recycling than reincarnation. Calling the boy the reincarnation of anyone- the Buddha or various other historical Buddhist figures is incorrect and contradictory to core Buddhist teachings. See for example “The Heart of the Buddha’s Teaching” by Thich Nhat Hanh.
- Scott Says:
March 10th, 2006 at 4:57 pmNice job not nit-picking there Tim Mac.
Is that a mote in your eye…
- mackers Says:
March 10th, 2006 at 7:27 pmMr. Tim Mac I think Tim hortons is a good coffee Mackdonald is good Hamburger for a cheap buyers of those products, i think scotch on the rock is good for alcoholic practioner. those unhealty products dont give it to Ram Banjan cuz he doesnt eat meat and doesnt drink alcohol so he doesnt eat and drink to. you guys are narrow minded you under estimated the capability of human strength you have to research more. all you have to know is to eat drink and have sex, thats animal life, playing clever yeah right. ived got a goosed bumps with your convictions, thats totally plastic.
- helenca Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 10:20 amhe symbolizes the need in all of us for Hope. whether he be real or not, in our heart we wish this is another indication that there are reasons behind this worldly chaos.just like a flower budding through the long enduring winter snow.The Dalai Lama claims he is the Nth reincarnation of something – do you guys believe that? does he at 3am, confronted with himself and the truth, believe that? or does his mere presence symbolizes something larger than himself or his followers?
- Jim Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 11:39 amYes: a fiction that comforts some. Don’t be surprised that others neither find it comforting nor wish to refrain from calling it a fiction.
- Tim Mac Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 12:13 pmThe news today is that Bomjon has disappeared:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4797064.stm
- Mactheknife Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 12:36 pmYou CAN meditate whilst moving. I have been meditating for 16 years. And I’ve eaten nothing in all that time. Can you prove I haven’t? Does this mean I’m special? Send cheques to me now.
- Scott Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 1:50 pmIf X were true, that would make me happy; therefore I believe X to be true.
This is a description of the frailty of human psychology, not an argument for the veracity of X.
This is a problem, not an answer.
Show me ONE rational argument that demonstrates that hope is a reliable indicator of truth.
- Scott Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 1:53 pmThanks for the link TM.
Wouldn’t it be interesting if he never turned up again. Imagine the mythology that could grow up round him then.
- prabesh Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 3:12 pmyo everyone
this kid is the real buddha. he si the reincarantion of buddha and christ. he will spread the message of peace and sage of peace and love between mankind and animals. he is from nepal where real buddha was born before 2500 years. he has been not eating for 10 months and medtating. can a normal human do that in this corrupt world. he is tryong to make the world a better place to live.
- what we need Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 6:08 pmwhat we need is desirelessness.
Here is that example in this boy.
Those who look for god, buddha, or any other diety is desperate for answers or questioning there faith or has fear or is prejudice. God is within and without. something to think about.
- what we need Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 6:11 pmif this boy is the reincarnation of Buddha and after you become Buddha you can not be reincarnated how is this possible.
Buddha aslo said “when you find the Buddha kill the Buddha”
- what we need Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 7:01 pmdo we really need god to appear, are we not in his image?
Do we really need a child to sit in silence to create peace.
should not we all profess and act in peace?
Aren’t we shrugging our own responsibility to create peace by leaving it
in the hands of those we deem gods.
If you want peace says the dali lama, you must act in peace walk in peace become the peace and change you want to create.
By flocking to those who we see as “the one” we place ourselves in precarious positions.
If we are all god and in his image and our bodies are our temples. We have already found him, the questions we need answered are already within.
Maybe we should all be sitting under a tree.
Like the parable of the person who spent much time to arive high upon a mountain to ask a great guru the meaning of life only to be told, “like is a bowl of cherries and my hemroids are killing me, now you can leave”
- Hungboy Says:
March 11th, 2006 at 10:02 pmBuddha boy is cute. If he hasn’t eaten in months, then he hasn’t shit in months, so his little teenage boy butthole must be so clean and tight! He’d be the bottom-boy fuck of the century. I would shoot so much cum up his ass. (Or does that count as nourishment?)
- RPDC Says:
March 12th, 2006 at 4:09 pmDear all,
I’m glad Bomjon left his tree yesterday! (If he didnt get abducted). That way he shows the world that he doesn’t need to PROVE anything to anyone as he’s probably sick of being stared at the way he is now. This man is doing a fantastic job, bringing peace to his region without asking for ANYTHING in return, for God sake LET HIM BE, period.
- mackers Says:
March 13th, 2006 at 2:17 pmRPDC that is only part of your negative illusioned period.
- Sound Of Two Hands Clapping Says:
March 13th, 2006 at 9:10 pmEveryone is looking in the wrong places. The kid is at the nearest McDonalds. duh
- mackers Says:
March 13th, 2006 at 10:38 pmYow Do you know the meaning of Two hands clapping?
I dont wanna share it to you cuz your not worth it.